Andrii Bidochko

• Updated: March 15, 2026
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Claude Code Killed a Passion: How AI Is Changing the Coding Landscape

Hacker Newsnew | past | comments | ask | show | jobs | submitloginI’m 60 years old. Claude Code killed a passion49 points by fred1268 55 minutes ago | hide | past | favorite | 25 commentsI stumble upon a post from shannoncc called “I’m 60 years old. Claude Code has re-ignited a passion”, and it made me think. I am also (almost) 60, but AI just killed the passion. I remember all the pre-AI days, where I was enjoying coding during the day, the evening, the weekends and the vacations.This is no more, while others have their “passion re-ignited”.I would argue it depends on what you enjoy: the journey or the destination. I have always enjoyed the journey, I think people having a blast nowadays are enjoying the destination. AI gave us more destinations, but less journey. It is not worse or better, just different. help Art9681 13 minutes ago | next [–] I enjoy the journey too. The journey is building systems, not coding.Coding was always the most tedious and least interesting part of it. Thinking about the system, thinking about its implementation details, iterating and making it better and better. Nothing has changed with AI. My ambition grew with the technology. Now I don’t waste time on simple systems. I can get to work doing what I’ve always thought would be impossible, or take years. I can fail faster than ever and pivot sooner.It’s the best thing to happen to systems engineering.replycies 1 minute ago | parent | next [–] So much agreed. I’m constraining my AI, that always wants to add more dependencies, create unnecessary code, broaden test to the point they become useless. I have in mind what I want it to build, and now I have workflows to make sure it does so effectively.I also ask it a lot of questions regarding my assumptions, and so “we” (me and the AI) find better solutions that either of us could make on our own.replydonatj 4 minutes ago | prev | next [–] > it depends on what you enjoy: the journey or the destinationThis has been 100% my experience. I enjoy the puzzle solving and the general joy of organizing and pulling things together. I could really care less about the end result to meet some business need. The fun part is in the building, it’s in the understanding, the growth of me.I have coworkers who get itchy when they don’t see their work on production, and super defensive in code review but I’ve never really cared. The goal is to solve the puzzle.Being forced to use Claude at work, it really just took away everything that was enjoyable. Instead of solving puzzles I’m wrangling a digital junior dev that doesn’t really learn from its mistakes, and lies all the time.replylambdathoughts 0 minutes ago | prev | next [–] I can totally get what you are feeling so much, that I actually wrote a whole novel about ithttps://leanpub.com/we-mourn-our-craftreplyFunSociety 51 minutes ago | prev | next [–] I’m not sure I understand. why not simply ignore AI and keep coding the way you always have? It’s a bit like saying motorboats killed your passion for rowing.replywek 10 minutes ago | parent | next [–] But to push the analogy a bit.If you are rowing on a lake with motorboats, it is a totally different experience. Noisy, constant wake. We are part of an ecosystem, not isolated.Growing up, the lakes in New England were filled with sailboats. There were sailing races. Now, its entirely pontoon boats. Not a sailboat to be found.replygeorgefrowny 7 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [–] I suppose in a way it’s like saying diesel engines killed passions for sailing.A career sailor on a sailing ship who finds meaning in rigging a ship just so with a team of shipmates in order to undertake a useful journey may find his love of sailing diminished somewhat when his life’s skills and passions are abruptly reduced to a historical curiosity.Other sailors may prefer their new “easier” jobs now they don’t have to climb rigging all day or caulk decking (but now they have other problems, you need far fewer of them per tonne of cargo).And the diesel engine mechanics are presumably cock-a-hoop at their new market.(This analogy makes no claim as to the relative utility of AI compared to diesel ships over sailing vessels).replyIsamu 5 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [–] I agree, I’m an old dude too. For personal projects I do what I like. I also like carving stone and wood the hard way, just because.At work though the hype sucks the life out of the last part of the job that some people found enjoyable, because complete control is enjoyable. Personally I think work is just doing what someone else wants, rather than pleasing yourself.replyJcampuzano2 14 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [–] My hypothesis around this and other peoples sentiments who dislike AI while citing similar reasons as the post is not simply that they enjoyed arriving at the destination.Rather the issue is they believe they are GOOD at the “journey” and getting to the destination and could compare their journey to others. Another take is they could more readily share their journey or help their peers. Some really like that part.Now who you are comparing to is not other people going through the same journey, so there is less comradery. Others no longer enjoy that same journey so it feels more “lonely” in a way.Theres nothing stopping someone from still writing their own code for fun by hand, but the element of sharing the journey with others is diminishing.replyEagnaIonat 12 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [–] I was like this a few months back. You want to code and solve problems, but the AI can do all that for you. I got over it by moving the problem solving further down the chain. Treat the AI the team you are directing to solve the issue.replyZenoArrow 7 minutes ago | root | parent | next [–] If I wanted to become a project manager I would have become one. AI has just exposed that many “engineers” are “temporarily embarrassed project managers”, which is fine in the sense that it makes it clearer who actually enjoys making things and who just wants the end result regardless of how it’s made.replyg051051 7 minutes ago | prev | next [–] As I commented in the other post, it killed mine at work, because my boss is pushing “AI” really hard on the devs. Fortunately, he’s now seeing enough evidence to counteract the hype, but it’s still going to be present and dragging down my work. But it my off time, I only experiment with LLMs to see if they’re getting better. Spoiler alert: they aren’t, at least not for the kind of things I want to do.replybvan 2 minutes ago | prev | next [–] Very well said. Slow code for me. I fully understand what I build. The AI magic bus will come crashing down at some point.replyhelsinkiandrew 3 minutes ago | prev | next [–] The original post: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47282777replyzackify 11 minutes ago | prev | next [–] I just built two projects where one dogfooded the other and setup a fully working slack bot all in 1 hour. If you still want to manually do things you can.AI can answer questions about common topics way faster than searching docs. Idk why this kills peoples passions. Especially of you’re old enough to not need a salaryreplymarkus_zhang 9 minutes ago | prev | next [–] My trick is to let AI help the journey but not hold on it. Use it for discussion, not implementation. It is even surprisingly good for kernel level projects.replytechblueberry 15 minutes ago | prev | next [–] To me I think it just changed the destination.Now the journey is about the domain – experimenting with how ideas fit together. Yes I can type in a few words and have more working code than I did before, but not a product or suite or game or capability or whatever it is I’m building towards.replybeardyw 17 minutes ago | prev | next [–] I’m even older, I’ve been coding for over 50 years. Now I just do it as a passtime and I use AI to complete lines of code I would have written anyway.It’s the structure and the approach which interests me and it’s all mine.replysnayan 48 minutes ago | prev | next [–] Can’t you continue to do what you’ve been doing? What specifically about the existence of AI is killing the passion out of curiosity?replyheraldgeezer 7 minutes ago | prev | next [–] I love AI but never used Claude Code.I just use the chat interface to study and do one-off scripts.I love having 4-5 bots open and spam the same questions then reading the answers. For everything.Feels like I am doing something, like video games.It has elevated my wardrobe and music tastes but I still had to have a baseline ofc. They are way too agreeable still.replyZenoArrow 10 minutes ago | prev | next [–] You do know you don’t have to use AI, right? I don’t use it for coding (or much at all outside of coding). I’m free to code just like I did before, and so are you.replysylware 13 minutes ago | prev | next [–] Hello, I cannot tell if this is true or not, since I have not been able to really test the ability of Claude AI to code.I am looking for a web API I could use with CURL, and limited “public/testing” API keys. Anyone?I am very interested in Claude code to test its ability to code assembly (x86_64/RISC-V) and to assist the ports of c++ code to plain and simple C (I read something from HN about this which seems to be promising).replyRALaBarge 32 minutes ago | prev [–] I’m 42 years old and it has re-ignited mine. I’ve spent my career troubleshooting and being a generalist, not really interested in writing code outside of for systems and networking usage. It’s boring to type out (lots of fun to plan though!) and outdated as soon as it is written.I’ve made and continue to make things that I’ve been thinking about for a while, but the juice was never worth the squeeze.Bluetooth troubleshooting for example — 5 or 6 different programs will log different parts of the stack independently. I’ve made an app calling all of these apps, and grouping all of their calls based on mac address’ and system time of the calls to correlate and pinpoint the exact issue.Now I heard the neckbeards crack their knuckles, getting ready to bear down on their split keyboards and start telling me how the program doesn’t work because AI made it, it isn’t artistic enough for their liking, or whatever the current lie they comfort themselves with is. But it does work, and I’ve used it already to determine some of my bad devices are really bad.But there are bugs, you exclaim! Sure, but have you seen human written code?I’ve made my career in understanding these systems, programming languages, and people using the systems — troubleshooting is the fun part and I guess lucky for me is that my favorite part is the thing that will continue to exist.But what about QA? Humans are better? No. Please guys, stop lying to yourselves. Even if there was a benefit that Humans bring over AI in this arena, that lead is evaporating fast or is already gone.I think a lot of people in our industry take their knowledge and ability to gatekeep by having that knowledge as some sort of a good thing. If that was the only thing you were good at, then maybe it is good that the AI is going to do the thing they excel at and leave those folks to theirs.It can leave humans to figure out how to maybe be more human? It is funny to type that since I have been on a computer 12h a day since like 1997.but there is a reason why we let calculators crunch large sums, and manufacturing robots have multiple articulating points in their arms making incredible items at insane speeds. I guess there were probably people who like using slide rules and were really good at it, pissed because their job was taken by a device that can do it better and faster. Diddnt the slide rule users take the job from people who did not have a tool like that at first but still had to do the job?Did THEY complain about that change as well? Regardless, all of these people were left behind if all they are going to do is complain. If you only built one skill in your career, and that is writing code and nothing else, that is not the programs fault.The journey exists for those who desire to build the knowledge that they lack and use these new incredible tools.For everyone else, there is Hacker News and an overwhelmingly significant crowd that are ready to talk about the good ole days instead of seeing the opportunities in expanding your talents with software that helps you do your thing better than you have ever dreamed of.replyklinquist 10 minutes ago | parent | next [–] I agree with this.I recently wanted to monitor my vehicle batteries with a cheap BLE battery monitor from AliExpress (by getting the data into HomeAssistant).I could have spent days digging through BlueZ on a Raspberry Pi, or I could use AI and have a working solution an hour later.Yes, I gave up the chance to manually learn every layer of the stack. I’m fine with that. The goal was not to become a Bluetooth archaeologist. The goal was to solve the problem. AI got me there faster – and let me move on to my next fun project.replyheraldgeezer 6 minutes ago | parent | prev [–] Yup they are so mad that sysadmin + CC/AI is perfect just like how they where going to take over with “devops”reply Guidelines | FAQ | Lists | API | Security | Legal | Apply to YC | Contact Search: [{},{“Hacker Newsnew | past | comments | ask | show | jobs | submitlogin”:”I’m 60 years old.Claude Code killed a passion49 points by fred1268 55 minutes ago | hide | past | favorite | 25 commentsI stumble upon a post from shannoncc called \”I’m 60 years old. Claude Code has re-ignited a passion\”, and it made me think. I am also (almost) 60, but AI just killed the passion. I remember all the pre-AI days, where I was enjoying coding during the day, the evening, the weekends and the vacations. This is no more, while others have their \”passion re-ignited\”.I would argue it depends on what you enjoy: the journey or the destination. I have always enjoyed the journey, I think people having a blast nowadays are enjoying the destination. AI gave us more destinations, but less journey. It is not worse or better, just different. help\n\nArt9681 13 minutes ago | next [–]\nI enjoy the journey too. The journey is building systems, not coding. Coding was always the most tedious and least interesting part of it.Thinking about the system, thinking about its implementation details, iterating and making it better and better. Nothing has changed with AI. My ambition grew with the technology. Now I don’t waste time on simple systems. I can get to work doing what I’ve always thought would be impossible, or take years. I can fail faster than ever and pivot sooner.It’s the best thing to happen to systems engineering.replycies 1 minute ago | parent | next [–]\nSo much agreed.I’m constraining my AI, that always wants to add more dependencies, create unnecessary code, broaden test to the point they become useless. I have in mind what I want it to build, and now I have workflows to make sure it does so effectively.I also ask it a lot of questions regarding my assumptions, and so \”we\” (me and the AI) find better solutions that either of us could make on our own.replydonatj 4 minutes ago | prev | next [–]\n> it depends on what you enjoy: the journey or the destinationThis has been 100% my experience. I enjoy the puzzle solving and the general joy of organizing and pulling things together. I could really care less about the end result to meet some business need. The fun part is in the building, it’s in the understanding, the growth of me.I have coworkers who get itchy when they don’t see their work on production, and super defensive in code review but I’ve never really cared. The goal is to solve the puzzle.Being forced to use Claude at work, it really just took away everything that was enjoyable. Instead of solving puzzles I’m wrangling a digital junior dev that doesn’t really learn from its mistakes, and lies all the time.replylambdathoughts 0 minutes ago | prev | next [–]\nI can totally get what you are feeling so much, that I actually wrote a whole novel about ithttps://leanpub.com/we-mourn-our-craftreplyFunSociety 51 minutes ago | prev | next [–]\nI’m not sure I understand. why not simply ignore AI and keep coding the way you always have? It’s a bit like saying motorboats killed your passion for rowing.replywek 10 minutes ago | parent | next [–]\nBut to push the analogy a bit.If you are rowing on a lake with motorboats, it is a totally different experience. Noisy, constant wake. We are part of an ecosystem, not isolated.Growing up, the lakes in New England were filled with sailboats. There were sailing races. Now, its entirely pontoon boats. Not a sailboat to be found.replygeorgefrowny 7 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [–]\nI suppose in a way it’s like saying diesel engines killed passions for sailing.A career sailor on a sailing ship who finds meaning in rigging a ship just so with a team of shipmates in order to undertake a useful journey may find his love of sailing diminished somewhat when his life’s skills and passions are abruptly reduced to a historical curiosity.Other sailors may prefer their new \”easier\” jobs now they don’t have to climb rigging all day or caulk decking (but now they have other problems, you need far fewer of them per tonne of cargo).And the diesel engine mechanics are presumably cock-a-hoop at their new market.(This analogy makes no claim as to the relative utility of AI compared to diesel ships over sailing vessels).replyIsamu 5 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [–]\nI agree, I’m an old dude too. For personal projects I do what I like. I also like carving stone and wood the hard way, just because.At work though the hype sucks the life out of the last part of the job that some people found enjoyable, because complete control is enjoyable. Personally I think work is just doing what someone else wants, rather than pleasing yourself.replyJcampuzano2 14 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [–]\nMy hypothesis around this and other peoples sentiments who dislike AI while citing similar reasons as the post is not simply that they enjoyed arriving at the destination.Rather the issue is they believe they are GOOD at the \”journey\” and getting to the destination and could compare their journey to others. Another take is they could more readily share their journey or help their peers. Some really like that part.Now who you are comparing to is not other people going through the same journey, so there is less comradery. Others no longer enjoy that same journey so it feels more \”lonely\” in a way.Theres nothing stopping someone from still writing their own code for fun by hand, but the element of sharing the journey with others is diminishing.replyEagnaIonat 12 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [–]\nI was like this a few months back. You want to code and solve problems, but the AI can do all that for you. I got over it by moving the problem solving further down the chain. Treat the AI the team you are directing to solve the issue.replyZenoArrow 7 minutes ago | root | parent | next [–]\nIf I wanted to become a project manager I would have become one. AI has just exposed that many \”engineers\” are \”temporarily embarrassed project managers\”, which is fine in the sense that it makes it clearer who actually enjoys making things and who just wants the end result regardless of how it’s made.replyg051051 7 minutes ago | prev | next [–]\nAs I commented in the other post, it killed mine at work, because my boss is pushing \”AI\” really hard on the devs. Fortunately, he’s now seeing enough evidence to counteract the hype, but it’s still going to be present and dragging down my work. But it my off time, I only experiment with LLMs to see if they’re getting better. Spoiler alert: they aren’t, at least not for the kind of things I want to do.replybvan 2 minutes ago | prev | next [–]\nVery well said. Slow code for me. I fully understand what I build. The AI magic bus will come crashing down at some point.replyhelsinkiandrew 3 minutes ago | prev | next [–]\nThe original post: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47282777replyzackify 11 minutes ago | prev | next [–]\nI just built two projects where one dogfooded the other and setup a fully working slack bot all in 1 hour. If you still want to manually do things you can.AI can answer questions about common topics way faster than searching docs. Idk why this kills peoples passions. Especially of you’re old enough to not need a salaryreplymarkus_zhang 9 minutes ago | prev | next [–]\nMy trick is to let AI help the journey but not hold on it. Use it for discussion, not implementation. It is even surprisingly good for kernel level projects.replytechblueberry 15 minutes ago | prev | next [–]\nTo me I think it just changed the destination.Now the journey is about the domain – experimenting with how ideas fit together. Yes I can type in a few words and have more working code than I did before, but not a product or suite or game or capability or whatever it is I’m building towards.replybeardyw 17 minutes ago | prev | next [–]\nI’m even older, I’ve been coding for over 50 years. Now I just do it as a passtime and I use AI to complete lines of code I would have written anyway.It’s the structure and the approach which interests me and it’s all mine.replysnayan 48 minutes ago | prev | next [–]\nCan’t you continue to do what you’ve been doing? What specifically about the existence of AI is killing the passion out of curiosity?replyheraldgeezer 7 minutes ago | prev | next [–]\nI love AI but never used Claude Code.I just use the chat interface to study and do one-off scripts.I love having 4-5 bots open and spam the same questions then reading the answers. For everything.Feels like I am doing something, like video games.It has elevated my wardrobe and music tastes but I still had to have a baseline ofc. They are way too agreeable still.replyZenoArrow 10 minutes ago | prev | next [–]\nYou do know you don’t have to use AI, right? I don’t use it for coding (or much at all outside of coding). I’m free to code just like I did before, and so are you.replysylware 13 minutes ago | prev | next [–]\nHello, I cannot tell if this is true or not, since I have not been able to really test the ability of Claude AI to code.I am looking for a web API I could use with CURL, and limited \”public/testing\” API keys. Anyone?I am very interested in Claude code to test its ability to code assembly (x86_64/RISC-V) and to assist the ports of c++ code to plain and simple C (I read something from HN about this which seems to be promising).replyRALaBarge 32 minutes ago | prev [–]\nI’m 42 years old and it has re-ignited mine. I’ve spent my career troubleshooting and being a generalist, not really interested in writing code outside of for systems and networking usage. It’s boring to type out (lots of fun to plan though!) and outdated as soon as it is written.I’ve made and continue to make things that I’ve been thinking about for a while, but the juice was never worth the squeeze.Bluetooth troubleshooting for example — 5 or 6 different programs will log different parts of the stack independently. I’ve made an app calling all of these apps, and grouping all of their calls based on mac address’ and system time of the calls to correlate and pinpoint the exact issue.Now I heard the neckbeards crack their knuckles, getting ready to bear down on their split keyboards and start telling me how the program doesn’t work because AI made it, it isn’t artistic enough for their liking, or whatever the current lie they comfort themselves with is. But it does work, and I’ve used it already to determine some of my bad devices are really bad.But there are bugs, you exclaim! Sure, but have you seen human written code?I’ve made my career in understanding these systems, programming languages, and people using the systems — troubleshooting is the fun part and I guess lucky for me is that my favorite part is the thing that will continue to exist.But what about QA? Humans are better? No. Please guys, stop lying to yourselves. Even if there was a benefit that Humans bring over AI in this arena, that lead is evaporating fast or is already gone.I think a lot of people in our industry take their knowledge and ability to gatekeep by having that knowledge as some sort of a good thing. If that was the only thing you were good at, then maybe it is good that the AI is going to do the thing they excel at and leave those folks to theirs.It can leave humans to figure out how to maybe be more human? It is funny to type that since I have been on a computer 12h a day since like 1997.but there is a reason why we let calculators crunch large sums, and manufacturing robots have multiple articulating points in their arms making incredible items at insane speeds. I guess there were probably people who like using slide rules and were really good at it, pissed because their job was taken by a device that can do it better and faster. Diddnt the slide rule users take the job from people who did not have a tool like that at first but still had to do the job?Did THEY complain about that change as well? Regardless, all of these people were left behind if all they are going to do is complain. If you only built one skill in your career, and that is writing code and nothing else, that is not the programs fault.The journey exists for those who desire to build the knowledge that they lack and use these new incredible tools.For everyone else, there is Hacker News and an overwhelmingly significant crowd that are ready to talk about the good ole days instead of seeing the opportunities in expanding your talents with software that helps you do your thing better than you have ever dreamed of.replyklinquist 10 minutes ago | parent | next [–]\nI agree with this.I recently wanted to monitor my vehicle batteries with a cheap BLE battery monitor from AliExpress (by getting the data into HomeAssistant).I could have spent days digging through BlueZ on a Raspberry Pi, or I could use AI and have a working solution an hour later.Yes, I gave up the chance to manually learn every layer of the stack. I’m fine with that. The goal was not to become a Bluetooth archaeologist. The goal was to solve the problem. AI got me there faster – and let me move on to my next fun project.replyheraldgeezer 6 minutes ago | parent | prev [–]\nYup they are so mad that sysadmin + CC/AI is perfect just like how they where going to take over with \”devops\”reply”,”Hacker Newsnew | past | comments | ask | show | jobs | submit”:””,”login”:””,”I’m 60 years old. Claude Code killed a passion”:”I’m 60 years old. Claude Code killed a passion”,”Art9681 13 minutes ago | next [–]\nI enjoy the journey too. The journey is building systems, not coding.Coding was always the most tedious and least interesting part of it. Thinking about the system, thinking about its implementation details, iterating and making it better and better. Nothing has changed with AI. My ambition grew with the technology. Now I don’t waste time on simple systems. I can get to work doing what I’ve always thought would be impossible, or take years. I can fail faster than ever and pivot sooner.It’s the best thing to happen to systems engineering.reply”:”49 points by fred1268 55 minutes ago | hide | past | favorite | 25 comments”,”cies 1 minute ago | parent | next [–]\nSo much agreed. I’m constraining my AI, that always wants to add more dependencies, create unnecessary code, broaden test to the point they become useless. I have in mind what I want it to build, and now I have workflows to make sure it does so effectively.I also ask it a lot of questions regarding my assumptions, and so \”we\” (me and the AI) find better solutions that either of us could make on our own.reply”:””,”donatj 4 minutes ago | prev | next [–]\n> it depends on what you enjoy: the journey or the destinationThis has been 100% my experience. I enjoy the puzzle solving and the general joy of organizing and pulling things together. I could really care less about the end result to meet some business need.The fun part is in the building, it’s in the understanding, the growth of me.I have coworkers who get itchy when they don’t see their work on production, and super defensive in code review but I’ve never really cared. The goal is to solve the puzzle.Being forced to use Claude at work, it really just took away everything that was enjoyable. Instead of solving puzzles I’m wrangling a digital junior dev that doesn’t really learn from its mistakes, and lies all the time.reply”:”I stumble upon a post from shannoncc called \”I’m 60 years old. Claude Code has re-ignited a passion\”, and it made me think. I am also (almost) 60, but AI just killed the passion. I remember all the pre-AI days, where I was enjoying coding during the day, the evening, the weekends and the vacations. This is no more, while others have their \”passion re-ignited\”.I would argue it depends on what you enjoy: the journey or the destination.I have always enjoyed the journey, I think people having a blast nowadays are enjoying the destination. AI gave us more destinations, but less journey. It is not worse or better, just different.”,”lambdathoughts 0 minutes ago | prev | next [–]\nI can totally get what you are feeling so much, that I actually wrote a whole novel about ithttps://leanpub.com/we-mourn-our-craftreply”:””,”FunSociety 51 minutes ago | prev | next [–]\nI’m not sure I understand.why not simply ignore AI and keep coding the way you always have? It’s a bit like saying motorboats killed your passion for rowing.reply”:”help”,”wek 10 minutes ago | parent | next [–]\nBut to push the analogy a bit. If you are rowing on a lake with motorboats, it is a totally different experience. Noisy, constant wake. We are part of an ecosystem, not isolated.Growing up, the lakes in New England were filled with sailboats. There were sailing races. Now, its entirely pontoon boats.Not a sailboat to be found.reply”:”Art9681 13 minutes ago | next [–]\nI enjoy the journey too. The journey is building systems, not coding. Coding was always the most tedious and least interesting part of it. Thinking about the system, thinking about its implementation details, iterating and making it better and better. Nothing has changed with AI. My ambition grew with the technology. Now I don’t waste time on simple systems.I can get to work doing what I’ve always thought would be impossible, or take years. I can fail faster than ever and pivot sooner.It’s the best thing to happen to systems engineering.reply”,”georgefrowny 7 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [–]\nI suppose in a way it’s like saying diesel engines killed passions for sailing.A career sailor on a sailing ship who finds meaning in rigging a ship just so with a team of shipmates in order to undertake a useful journey may find his love of sailing diminished somewhat when his life’s skills and passions are abruptly reduced to a historical curiosity.Other sailors may prefer their new \”easier\” jobs now they don’t have to climb rigging all day or caulk decking (but now they have other problems, you need far fewer of them per tonne of cargo).And the diesel engine mechanics are presumably cock-a-hoop at their new market.(This analogy makes no claim as to the relative utility of AI compared to diesel ships over sailing vessels).reply”:””,”Isamu 5 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [–]\nI agree, I’m an old dude too. For personal projects I do what I like. I also like carving stone and wood the hard way, just because.At work though the hype sucks the life out of the last part of the job that some people found enjoyable, because complete control is enjoyable. Personally I think work is just doing what someone else wants, rather than pleasing yourself.reply”:””,”Jcampuzano2 14 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [–]\nMy hypothesis around this and other peoples sentiments who dislike AI while citing similar reasons as the post is not simply that they enjoyed arriving at the destination.Rather the issue is they believe they are GOOD at the \”journey\” and getting to the destination and could compare their journey to others. Another take is they could more readily share their journey or help their peers. Some really like that part.Now who you are comparing to is not other people going through the same journey, so there is less comradery. Others no longer enjoy that same journey so it feels more \”lonely\” in a way.Theres nothing stopping someone from still writing their own code for fun by hand, but the element of sharing the journey with others is diminishing.reply”:”Art9681 13 minutes ago | next [–]\nI enjoy the journey too. The journey is building systems, not coding. Coding was always the most tedious and least interesting part of it. Thinking about the system, thinking about its implementation details, iterating and making it better and better. Nothing has changed with AI.My ambition grew with the technology. Now I don’t waste time on simple systems. I can get to work doing what I’ve always thought would be impossible, or take years. I can fail faster than ever and pivot sooner.It’s the best thing to happen to systems engineering.reply”,”EagnaIonat 12 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [–]\nI was like this a few months back. You want to code and solve problems, but the AI can do all that for you. I got over it by moving the problem solving further down the chain. Treat the AI the team you are directing to solve the issue.reply”:”cies 1 minute ago | parent | next [–]\nSo much agreed. I’m constraining my AI, that always wants to add more dependencies, create unnecessary code, broaden test to the point they become useless. I have in mind what I want it to build, and now I have workflows to make sure it does so effectively.I also ask it a lot of questions regarding my assumptions, and so \”we\” (me and the AI) find better solutions that either of us could make on our own.reply”,”ZenoArrow 7 minutes ago | root | parent | next [–]\nIf I wanted to become a project manager I would have become one.AI has just exposed that many \”engineers\” are \”temporarily embarrassed project managers\”, which is fine in the sense that it makes it clearer who actually enjoys making things and who just wants the end result regardless of how it’s made.reply”:””,”g051051 7 minutes ago | prev | next [–]\nAs I commented in the other post, it killed mine at work, because my boss is pushing \”AI\” really hard on the devs.Fortunately, he’s now seeing enough evidence to counteract the hype, but it’s still going to be present and dragging down my work. But it my off time, I only experiment with LLMs to see if they’re getting better. Spoiler alert: they aren’t, at least not for the kind of things I want to do.reply”:””,”bvan 2 minutes ago | prev | next [–]\nVery well said. Slow code for me. I fully understand what I build. The AI magic bus will come crashing down at some point.reply”:”cies 1 minute ago | parent | next [–]\nSo much agreed. I’m constraining my AI, that always wants to add more dependencies, create unnecessary code, broaden test to the point they become useless. I have in mind what I want it to build, and now I have workflows to make sure it does so effectively.I also ask it a lot of questions regarding my assumptions, and so \”we\” (me and the AI) find better solutions that either of us could make on our own.reply”,”helsinkiandrew 3 minutes ago | prev | next [–]\nThe original post: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47282777reply”:”donatj 4 minutes ago | prev | next [–]\n> it depends on what you enjoy: the journey or the destinationThis has been 100% my experience. I enjoy the puzzle solving and the general joy of organizing and pulling things together. I could really care less about the end result to meet some business need.The fun part is in the building, it’s in the understanding, the growth of me.I have coworkers who get itchy when they don’t see their work on production, and super defensive in code review but I’ve never really cared. The goal is to solve the puzzle.Being forced to use Claude at work, it really just took away everything that was enjoyable. Instead of solving puzzles I’m wrangling a digital junior dev that doesn’t really learn from its mistakes, and lies all the time.reply”,”zackify 11 minutes ago | prev | next [–]\nI just built two projects where one dogfooded the other and setup a fully working slack bot all in 1 hour. If you still want to manually do things you can. AI can answer questions about common topics way faster than searching docs. Idk why this kills peoples passions. Especially of you’re old enough to not need a salaryreply”:””,”markus_zhang 9 minutes ago | prev | next [–]\nMy trick is to let AI help the journey but not hold on it.Use it for discussion, not implementation. It is even surprisingly good for kernel level projects.reply”:””,”techblueberry 15 minutes ago | prev | next [–]\nTo me I think it just changed the destination. Now the journey is about the domain – experimenting with how ideas fit together. Yes I can type in a few words and have more working code than I did before, but not a product or suite or game or capability or whatever it is I’m building towards.reply”:”donatj 4 minutes ago | prev | next [–]\n> it depends on what you enjoy: the journey or the destinationThis has been 100% my experience. I enjoy the puzzle solving and the general joy of organizing and pulling things together. I could really care less about the end result to meet some business need. The fun part is in the building, it’s in the understanding, the growth of me.I have coworkers who get itchy when they don’t see their work on production, and super defensive in code review but I’ve never really cared. The goal is to solve the puzzle.Being forced to use Claude at work, it really just took away everything that was enjoyable. Instead of solving puzzles I’m wrangling a digital junior dev that doesn’t really learn from its mistakes, and lies all the time.reply”,”beardyw 17 minutes ago | prev | next [–]\nI’m even older, I’ve been coding for over 50 years.Now I just do it as a passtime and I use AI to complete lines of code I would have written anyway. It’s the structure and the approach which interests me and it’s all mine.reply”:”lambdathoughts 0 minutes ago | prev | next [–]\nI can totally get what you are feeling so much, that I actually wrote a whole novel about ithttps://leanpub.com/we-mourn-our-craftreply”,”snayan 48 minutes ago | prev | next [–]\nCan’t you continue to do what you’ve been doing?What specifically about the existence of AI is killing the passion out of curiosity?reply”:””,”heraldgeezer 7 minutes ago | prev | next [–]\nI love AI but never used Claude Code.I just use the chat interface to study and do one-off scripts.I love having 4-5 bots open and spam the same questions then reading the answers. For everything. Feels like I am doing something, like video games.It has elevated my wardrobe and music tastes but I still had to have a baseline ofc.They are way too agreeable still.reply”:””,”ZenoArrow 10 minutes ago | prev | next [–]\nYou do know you don’t have to use AI, right? I don’t use it for coding (or much at all outside of coding). I’m free to code just like I did before, and so are you.reply”:”lambdathoughts 0 minutes ago | prev | next [–]\nI can totally get what you are feeling so much, that I actually wrote a whole novel about ithttps://leanpub.com/we-mourn-our-craftreply”,”sylware 13 minutes ago | prev | next [–]\nHello, I cannot tell if this is true or not, since I have not been able to really test the ability of Claude AI to code.I am looking for a web API I could use with CURL, and limited \”public/testing\” API keys. Anyone?I am very interested in Claude code to test its ability to code assembly (x86_64/RISC-V) and to assist the ports of c++ code to plain and simple C (I read something from HN about this which seems to be promising).reply”:”FunSociety 51 minutes ago | prev | next [–]\nI’m not sure I understand. why not simply ignore AI and keep coding the way you always have? It’s a bit like saying motorboats killed your passion for rowing.reply”,”RALaBarge 32 minutes ago | prev [–]\nI’m 42 years old and it has re-ignited mine. I’ve spent my career troubleshooting and being a generalist, not really interested in writing code outside of for systems and networking usage. It’s boring to type out (lots of fun to plan though!) and outdated as soon as it is written.I’ve made and continue to make things that I’ve been thinking about for a while, but the juice was never worth the squeeze.Bluetooth troubleshooting for example — 5 or 6 different programs will log different parts of the stack independently. I’ve made an app calling all of these apps, and grouping all of their calls based on mac address’ and system time of the calls to correlate and pinpoint the exact issue.Now I heard the neckbeards crack their knuckles, getting ready to bear down on their split keyboards and start telling me how the program doesn’t work because AI made it, it isn’t artistic enough for their liking, or whatever the current lie they comfort themselves with is. But it does work, and I’ve used it already to determine some of my bad devices are really bad.But there are bugs, you exclaim! Sure, but have you seen human written code?I’ve made my career in understanding these systems, programming languages, and people using the systems — troubleshooting is the fun part and I guess lucky for me is that my favorite part is the thing that will continue to exist.But what about QA? Humans are better? No. Please guys, stop lying to yourselves. Even if there was a benefit that Humans bring over AI in this arena, that lead is evaporating fast or is already gone.I think a lot of people in our industry take their knowledge and ability to gatekeep by having that knowledge as some sort of a good thing. If that was the only thing you were good at, then maybe it is good that the AI is going to do the thing they excel at and leave those folks to theirs.It can leave humans to figure out how to maybe be more human? It is funny to type that since I have been on a computer 12h a day since like 1997.but there is a reason why we let calculators crunch large sums, and manufacturing robots have multiple articulating points in their arms making incredible items at insane speeds. I guess there were probably people who like using slide rules and were really good at it, pissed because their job was taken by a device that can do it better and faster. Diddnt the slide rule users take the job from people who did not have a tool like that at first but still had to do the job?Did THEY complain about that change as well? Regardless, all of these people were left behind if all they are going to do is complain. If you only built one skill in your career, and that is writing code and nothing else, that is not the programs fault.The journey exists for those who desire to build the knowledge that they lack and use these new incredible tools.For everyone else, there is Hacker News and an overwhelmingly significant crowd that are ready to talk about the good ole days instead of seeing the opportunities in expanding your talents with software that helps you do your thing better than you have ever dreamed of.reply”:””,”klinquist 10 minutes ago | parent | next [–]\nI agree with this.I recently wanted to monitor my vehicle batteries with a cheap BLE battery monitor from AliExpress (by getting the data into HomeAssistant).I could have spent days digging through BlueZ on a Raspberry Pi, or I could use AI and have a working solution an hour later.Yes, I gave up the chance to manually learn every layer of the stack. I’m fine with that. The goal was not to become a Bluetooth archaeologist. The goal was to solve the problem. AI got me there faster – and let me move on to my next fun project.reply”:””,”heraldgeezer 6 minutes ago | parent | prev [–]\nYup they are so mad that sysadmin + CC/AI is perfect just like how they where going to take over with \”devops\”reply”:”FunSociety 51 minutes ago | prev | next [–]\nI’m not sure I understand. why not simply ignore AI and keep coding the way you always have? It’s a bit like saying motorboats killed your passion for rowing.reply”},{“Hacker Newsnew | past | comments | ask | show | jobs | submitlogin”:””,”Hacker Newsnew | past | comments | ask | show | jobs | submit”:”49 points by fred1268 55 minutes ago | hide | past | favorite | 25 comments”},{“Hacker Newsnew | past | comments | ask | show | jobs | submitlogin”:””,”Hacker Newsnew | past | comments | ask | show | jobs | submit”:”I stumble upon a post from shannoncc called \”I’m 60 years old. Claude Code has re-ignited a passion\”, and it made me think.I am also (almost) 60, but AI just killed the passion. I remember all the pre-AI days, where I was enjoying coding during the day, the evening, the weekends and the vacations. This is no more, while others have their \”passion re-ignited\”.I would argue it depends on what you enjoy: the journey or the destination. I have always enjoyed the journey, I think people having a blast nowadays are enjoying the destination. AI gave us more destinations, but less journey.It is not worse or better, just different.”},{},{“Hacker Newsnew | past | comments | ask | show | jobs | submitlogin”:””,”Hacker Newsnew | past | comments | ask | show | jobs | submit”:”help”},{“Hacker Newsnew | past | comments | ask | show | jobs | submitlogin”:”cies 1 minute ago | parent | next [–]\nSo much agreed. I’m constraining my AI, that always wants to add more dependencies, create unnecessary code, broaden test to the point they become useless.I have in mind what I want it to build, and now I have workflows to make sure it does so effectively.I also ask it a lot of questions regarding my assumptions, and so \”we\” (me and the AI) find better solutions that either of us could make on our own.reply”,”Hacker Newsnew | past | comments | ask | show | jobs | submit”:””,”login”:””,”I’m 60 years old. Claude Code killed a passion”:”cies 1 minute ago | parent | next [–]\nSo much agreed.I’m constraining my AI, that always wants to add more dependencies, create unnecessary code, broaden test to the point they become useless. I have in mind what I want it to build, and now I have workflows to make sure it does so effectively.I also ask it a lot of questions regarding my assumptions, and so \”we\” (me and the AI) find better solutions that either of us could make on our own.reply”},{“Hacker Newsnew | past | comments | ask | show | jobs | submitlogin”:”donatj 4 minutes ago | prev | next [–]\n> it depends on what you enjoy: the journey or the destinationThis has been 100% my experience. I enjoy the puzzle solving and the general joy of organizing and pulling things together. I could really care less about the end result to meet some business need. The fun part is in the building, it’s in the understanding, the growth of me.I have coworkers who get itchy when they don’t see their work on production, and super defensive in code review but I’ve never really cared. The goal is to solve the puzzle.Being forced to use Claude at work, it really just took away everything that was enjoyable. Instead of solving puzzles I’m wrangling a digital junior dev that doesn’t really learn from its mistakes, and lies all the time.reply”,”Hacker Newsnew | past | comments | ask | show | jobs | submit”:””,”login”:””,”I’m 60 years old.Claude Code killed a passion”:”donatj 4 minutes ago | prev | next [–]\n> it depends on what you enjoy: the journey or the destinationThis has been 100% my experience. I enjoy the puzzle solving and the general joy of organizing and pulling things together. I could really care less about the end result to meet some business need. The fun part is in the building, it’s in the understanding, the growth of me.I have coworkers who get itchy when they don’t see their work on production, and super defensive in code review but I’ve never really cared. The goal is to solve the puzzle.Being forced to use Claude at work, it really just took away everything that was enjoyable. Instead of solving puzzles I’m wrangling a digital junior dev that doesn’t really learn from its mistakes, and lies all the time.reply”},{“Hacker Newsnew | past | comments | ask | show | jobs | submitlogin”:”lambdathoughts 0 minutes ago | prev | next [–]\nI can totally get what you are feeling so much, that I actually wrote a whole novel about ithttps://leanpub.com/we-mourn-our-craftreply”,”Hacker Newsnew | past | comments | ask | show | jobs | submit”:””,”login”:””,”I’m 60 years old.Claude Code killed a passion”:”lambdathoughts 0 minutes ago | prev | next [–]\nI can totally get what you are feeling so much, that I actually wrote a whole novel about ithttps://leanpub.com/we-mourn-our-craftreply”},{“Hacker Newsnew | past | comments | ask | show | jobs | submitlogin”:”FunSociety 51 minutes ago | prev | next [–]\nI’m not sure I understand. why not simply ignore AI and keep coding the way you always have? It’s a bit like saying motorboats killed your passion for rowing.reply”,”Hacker Newsnew | past | comments | ask | show | jobs | submit”:””,”login”:””,”I’m 60 years old. Claude Code killed a passion”:”FunSociety 51 minutes ago | prev | next [–]\nI’m not sure I understand. why not simply ignore AI and keep coding the way you always have? It’s a bit like saying motorboats killed your passion for rowing.reply”},{“Hacker Newsnew | past | comments | ask | show | jobs | submitlogin”:”wek 10 minutes ago | parent | next [–]\nBut to push the analogy a bit.If you are rowing on a lake with motorboats, it is a totally different experience. Noisy, constant wake. We are part of an ecosystem, not isolated.Growing up, the lakes in New England were filled with sailboats. There were sailing races. Now, its entirely pontoon boats. Not a sailboat to be found.reply”,”Hacker Newsnew | past | comments | ask | show | jobs | submit”:””,”login”:””,”I’m 60 years old.Claude Code killed a passion”:”wek 10 minutes ago | parent | next [–]\nBut to push the analogy a bit. If you are rowing on a lake with motorboats, it is a totally different experience. Noisy, constant wake. We are part of an ecosystem, not isolated.Growing up, the lakes in New England were filled with sailboats. There were sailing races. Now, its entirely pontoon boats. Not a sailboat to be found.reply”},{“Hacker Newsnew | past | comments | ask | show | jobs | submitlogin”:”georgefrowny 7 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [–]\nI suppose in a way it’s like saying diesel engines killed passions for sailing.A career sailor on a sailing ship who finds meaning in rigging a ship just so with a team of shipmates in order to undertake a useful journey may find his love of sailing diminished somewhat when his life’s skills and passions are abruptly reduced to a historical curiosity.Other sailors may prefer their new \”easier\” jobs now they don’t have to climb rigging all day or caulk decking (but now they have other problems, you need far fewer of them per tonne of cargo).And the diesel engine mechanics are presumably cock-a-hoop at their new market.(This analogy makes no claim as to the relative utility of AI compared to diesel ships over sailing vessels).reply”,”Hacker Newsnew | past | comments | ask | show | jobs | submit”:””,”login”:””,”I’m 60 years old.Claude Code killed a passion”:”georgefrowny 7 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [–]\nI suppose in a way it’s like saying diesel engines killed passions for sailing.A career sailor on a sailing ship who finds meaning in rigging a ship just so with a team of shipmates in order to undertake a useful journey may find his love of sailing diminished somewhat when his life’s skills and passions are abruptly reduced to a historical curiosity.Other sailors may prefer their new \”easier\” jobs now they don’t have to climb rigging all day or caulk decking (but now they have other problems, you need far fewer of them per tonne of cargo).And the diesel engine mechanics are presumably cock-a-hoop at their new market.(This analogy makes no claim as to the relative utility of AI compared to diesel ships over sailing vessels).reply”},{“Hacker Newsnew | past | comments | ask | show | jobs | submitlogin”:”Isamu 5 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [–]\nI agree, I’m an old dude too. For personal projects I do what I like. I also like carving stone and wood the hard way, just because.At work though the hype sucks the life out of the last part of the job that some people found enjoyable, because complete control is enjoyable. Personally I think work is just doing what someone else wants, rather than pleasing yourself.reply”,”Hacker Newsnew | past | comments | ask | show | jobs | submit”:””,”login”:””,”I’m 60 years old. Claude Code killed a passion”:”Isamu 5 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [–]\nI agree, I’m an old dude too. For personal projects I do what I like. I also like carving stone and wood the hard way, just because.At work though the hype sucks the life out of the last part of the job that some people found enjoyable, because complete control is enjoyable.Personally I think work is just doing what someone else wants, rather than pleasing yourself.reply”},{“Hacker Newsnew | past | comments | ask | show | jobs | submitlogin”:”Jcampuzano2 14 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [–]\nMy hypothesis around this and other peoples sentiments who dislike AI while citing similar reasons as the post is not simply that they enjoyed arriving at the destination.Rather the issue is they believe they are GOOD at the \”journey\” and getting to the destination and could compare their journey to others. Another take is they could more readily share their journey or help their peers. Some really like that part.Now who you are comparing to is not other people going through the same journey, so there is less comradery. Others no longer enjoy that same journey so it feels more \”lonely\” in a way.Theres nothing stopping someone from still writing their own code for fun by hand, but the element of sharing the journey with others is diminishing.reply”,”Hacker Newsnew | past | comments | ask | show | jobs | submit”:””,”login”:””,”I’m 60 years old.Claude Code killed a passion”:”Jcampuzano2 14 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [–]\nMy hypothesis around this and other peoples sentiments who dislike AI while citing similar reasons as the post is not simply that they enjoyed arriving at the destination.Rather the issue is they believe they are GOOD at the \”journey\” and getting to the destination and could compare their journey to others. Another take is they could more readily share their journey or help their peers.Some really like that part.Now who you are comparing to is not other people going through the same journey, so there is less comradery. Others no longer enjoy that same journey so it feels more \”lonely\” in a way.Theres nothing stopping someone from still writing their own code for fun by hand, but the element of sharing the journey with others is diminishing.reply”},{“Hacker Newsnew | past | comments | ask | show | jobs | submitlogin”:”EagnaIonat 12 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [–]\nI was like this a few months back. You want to code and solve problems, but the AI can do all that for you. I got over it by moving the problem solving further down the chain. Treat the AI the team you are directing to solve the issue.reply”,”Hacker Newsnew | past | comments | ask | show | jobs | submit”:””,”login”:””,”I’m 60 years old.Claude Code killed a passion”:”EagnaIonat 12 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [–]\nI was like this a few months back. You want to code and solve problems, but the AI can do all that for you. I got over it by moving the problem solving further down the chain. Treat the AI the team you are directing to solve the issue.reply”},{“Hacker Newsnew | past | comments | ask | show | jobs | submitlogin”:”ZenoArrow 7 minutes ago | root | parent | next [–]\nIf I wanted to become a project manager I would have become one. AI has just exposed that many \”engineers\” are \”temporarily embarrassed project managers\”, which is fine in the sense that it makes it clearer who actually enjoys making things and who just wants the end result regardless of how it’s made.reply”,”Hacker Newsnew | past | comments | ask | show | jobs | submit”:””,”login”:””,”I’m 60 years old. Claude Code killed a passion”:”ZenoArrow 7 minutes ago | root | parent | next [–]\nIf I wanted to become a project manager I would have become one. AI has just exposed that many \”engineers\” are \”temporarily embarrassed project managers\”, which is fine in the sense that it makes it clearer who actually enjoys making things and who just wants the end result regardless of how it’s made.reply”},{“Hacker Newsnew | past | comments | ask | show | jobs | submitlogin”:”g051051 7 minutes ago | prev | next [–]\nAs I commented in the other post, it killed mine at work, because my boss is pushing \”AI\” really hard on the devs. Fortunately, he’s now seeing enough evidence to counteract the hype, but it’s still going to be present and dragging down my work. But it my off time, I only experiment with LLMs to see if they’re getting better.Spoiler alert: they aren’t, at least not for the kind of things I want to do.reply”,”Hacker Newsnew | past | comments | ask | show | jobs | submit”:””,”login”:””,”I’m 60 years old. Claude Code killed a passion”:”g051051 7 minutes ago | prev | next [–]\nAs I commented in the other post, it killed mine at work, because my boss is pushing \”AI\” really hard on the devs. Fortunately, he’s now seeing enough evidence to counteract the hype, but it’s still going to be present and dragging down my work. But it my off time, I only experiment with LLMs to see if they’re getting better. Spoiler alert: they aren’t, at least not for the kind of things I want to do.reply”},{“Hacker Newsnew | past | comments | ask | show | jobs | submitlogin”:”bvan 2 minutes ago | prev | next [–]\nVery well said. Slow code for me. I fully understand what I build. The AI magic bus will come crashing down at some point.reply”,”Hacker Newsnew | past | comments | ask | show | jobs | submit”:””,”login”:””,”I’m 60 years old. Claude Code killed a passion”:”bvan 2 minutes ago | prev | next [–]\nVery well said. Slow code for me. I fully understand what I build. The AI magic bus will come crashing down at some point.reply”},{“Hacker Newsnew | past | comments | ask | show | jobs | submitlogin”:”helsinkiandrew 3 minutes ago | prev | next [–]\nThe original post: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47282777reply”,”Hacker Newsnew | past | comments | ask | show | jobs | submit”:””,”login”:””,”I’m 60 years old. Claude Code killed a passion”:”helsinkiandrew 3 minutes ago | prev | next [–]\nThe original post: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47282777reply”},{“Hacker Newsnew | past | comments | ask | show | jobs | submitlogin”:”zackify 11 minutes ago | prev | next [–]\nI just built two projects where one dogfooded the other and setup a fully working slack bot all in 1 hour.If you still want to manually do things you can. AI can answer questions about common topics way faster than searching docs. Idk why this kills peoples passions. Especially of you’re old enough to not need a salaryreply”,”Hacker Newsnew | past | comments | ask | show | jobs | submit”:””,”login”:””,”I’m 60 years old. Claude Code killed a passion”:”zackify 11 minutes ago | prev | next [–]\nI just built two projects where one dogfooded the other and setup a fully working slack bot all in 1 hour.If you still want to manually do things you can. AI can answer questions about common topics way faster than searching docs. Idk why this kills peoples passions. Especially of you’re old enough to not need a salaryreply”},{“Hacker Newsnew | past | comments | ask | show | jobs | submitlogin”:”markus_zhang 9 minutes ago | prev | next [–]\nMy trick is to let AI help the journey but not hold on it. Use it for discussion, not implementation. It is even surprisingly good for kernel level projects.reply”,”Hacker Newsnew | past | comments | ask | show | jobs | submit”:””,”login”:””,”I’m 60 years old. Claude Code killed a passion”:”markus_zhang 9 minutes ago | prev | next [–]\nMy trick is to let AI help the journey but not hold on it. Use it for discussion, not implementation. It is even surprisingly good for kernel level projects.reply”},{“Hacker Newsnew | past | comments | ask | show | jobs | submitlogin”:”techblueberry 15 minutes ago | prev | next [–]\nTo me I think it just changed the destination. Now the journey is about the domain – experimenting with how ideas fit together. Yes I can type in a few words and have more working code than I did before, but not a product or suite or game or capability or whatever it is I’m building towards.reply”,”Hacker Newsnew | past | comments | ask | show | jobs | submit”:””,”login”:””,”I’m 60 years old. Claude Code killed a passion”:”techblueberry 15 minutes ago | prev | next [–]\nTo me I think it just changed the destination. Now the journey is about the domain – experimenting with how ideas fit together. Yes I can type in a few words and have more working code than I did before, but not a product or suite or game or capability or whatever it is I’m building towards.reply”},{“Hacker Newsnew | past | comments | ask | show | jobs | submitlogin”:”beardyw 17 minutes ago | prev | next [–]\nI’m even older, I’ve been coding for over 50 years. Now I just do it as a passtime and I use AI to complete lines of code I would have written anyway. It’s the structure and the approach which interests me and it’s all mine.reply”,”Hacker Newsnew | past | comments | ask | show | jobs | submit”:””,”login”:””,”I’m 60 years old.Claude Code killed a passion”:”beardyw 17 minutes ago | prev | next [–]\nI’m even older, I’ve been coding for over 50 years. Now I just do it as a passtime and I use AI to complete lines of code I would have written anyway. It’s the structure and the approach which interests me and it’s all mine.reply”},{“Hacker Newsnew | past | comments | ask | show | jobs | submitlogin”:”snayan 48 minutes ago | prev | next [–]\nCan’t you continue to do what you’ve been doing?What specifically about the existence of AI is killing the passion out of curiosity?reply”,”Hacker Newsnew | past | comments | ask | show | jobs | submit”:””,”login”:””,”I’m 60 years old. Claude Code killed a passion”:”snayan 48 minutes ago | prev | next [–]\nCan’t you continue to do what you’ve been doing? What specifically about the existence of AI is killing the passion out of curiosity?reply”},{“Hacker Newsnew | past | comments | ask | show | jobs | submitlogin”:”heraldgeezer 7 minutes ago | prev | next [–]\nI love AI but never used Claude Code.I just use the chat interface to study and do one-off scripts.I love having 4-5 bots open and spam the same questions then reading the answers. For everything. Feels like I am doing something, like video games.It has elevated my wardrobe and music tastes but I still had to have a baseline ofc. They are way too agreeable still.reply”,”Hacker Newsnew | past | comments | ask | show | jobs | submit”:””,”login”:””,”I’m 60 years old. Claude Code killed a passion”:”heraldgeezer 7 minutes ago | prev | next [–]\nI love AI but never used Claude Code.I just use the chat interface to study and do one-off scripts.I love having 4-5 bots open and spam the same questions then reading the answers. For everything. Feels like I am doing something, like video games.It has elevated my wardrobe and music tastes but I still had to have a baseline ofc. They are way too agreeable still.reply”},{“Hacker Newsnew | past | comments | ask | show | jobs | submitlogin”:”ZenoArrow 10 minutes ago | prev | next [–]\nYou do know you don’t have to use AI, right? I don’t use it for coding (or much at all outside of coding). I’m free to code just like I did before, and so are you.reply”,”Hacker Newsnew | past | comments | ask | show | jobs | submit”:””,”login”:””,”I’m 60 years old. Claude Code killed a passion”:”ZenoArrow 10 minutes ago | prev | next [–]\nYou do know you don’t have to use AI, right? I don’t use it for coding (or much at all outside of coding). I’m free to code just like I did before, and so are you.reply”},{“Hacker Newsnew | past | comments | ask | show | jobs | submitlogin”:”sylware 13 minutes ago | prev | next [–]\nHello, I cannot tell if this is true or not, since I have not been able to really test the ability of Claude AI to code.I am looking for a web API I could use with CURL, and limited \”public/testing\” API keys. Anyone?I am very interested in Claude code to test its ability to code assembly (x86_64/RISC-V) and to assist the ports of c++ code to plain and simple C (I read something from HN about this which seems to be promising).reply”,”Hacker Newsnew | past | comments | ask | show | jobs | submit”:””,”login”:””,”I’m 60 years old.Claude Code killed a passion”:”sylware 13 minutes ago | prev | next [–]\nHello, I cannot tell if this is true or not, since I have not been able to really test the ability of Claude AI to code.I am looking for a web API I could use with CURL, and limited \”public/testing\” API keys. Anyone?I am very interested in Claude code to test its ability to code assembly (x86_64/RISC-V) and to assist the ports of c++ code to plain and simple C (I read something from HN about this which seems to be promising).reply”},{“Hacker Newsnew | past | comments | ask | show | jobs | submitlogin”:”RALaBarge 32 minutes ago | prev [–]\nI’m 42 years old and it has re-ignited mine.I’ve spent my career troubleshooting and being a generalist, not really interested in writing code outside of for systems and networking usage. It’s boring to type out (lots of fun to plan though!) and outdated as soon as it is written.I’ve made and continue to make things that I’ve been thinking about for a while, but the juice was never worth the squeeze. Bluetooth troubleshooting for example — 5 or 6 different programs will log different parts of the stack independently.I’ve made an app calling all of these apps, and grouping all of their calls based on mac address’ and system time of the calls to correlate and pinpoint the exact issue.Now I heard the neckbeards crack their knuckles, getting ready to bear down on their split keyboards and start telling me how the program doesn’t work because AI made it, it isn’t artistic enough for their liking, or whatever the current lie they comfort themselves with is.But it does work, and I’ve used it already to determine some of my bad devices are really bad.But there are bugs, you exclaim! Sure, but have you seen human written code? I’ve made my career in understanding these systems, programming languages, and people using the systems — troubleshooting is the fun part and I guess lucky for me is that my favorite part is the thing that will continue to exist.But what about QA? Humans are better? No. Please guys, stop lying to yourselves.Even if there was a benefit that Humans bring over AI in this arena, that lead is evaporating fast or is already gone. I think a lot of people in our industry take their knowledge and ability to gatekeep by having that knowledge as some sort of a good thing. If that was the only thing you were good at, then maybe it is good that the AI is going to do the thing they excel at and leave those folks to theirs.It can leave humans to figure out how to maybe be more human?It is funny to type that since I have been on a computer 12h a day since like 1997.but there is a reason why we let calculators crunch large sums, and manufacturing robots have multiple articulating points in their arms making incredible items at insane speeds. I guess there were probably people who like using slide rules and were really good at it, pissed because their job was taken by a device that can do it better and faster.Diddnt the slide rule users take the job from people who did not have a tool like that at first but still had to do the job?Did THEY complain about that change as well? Regardless, all of these people were left behind if all they are going to do is complain. If you only built one skill in your career, and that is writing code and nothing else, that is not the programs fault.The journey exists for those who desire to build the knowledge that they lack and use these new incredible tools.For everyone else, there is Hacker News and an overwhelmingly significant crowd that are ready to talk about the good ole days instead of seeing the opportunities in expanding your talents with software that helps you do your thing better than you have ever dreamed of.reply”,”Hacker Newsnew | past | comments | ask | show | jobs | submit”:””,”login”:””,”I’m 60 years old. Claude Code killed a passion”:”RALaBarge 32 minutes ago | prev [–]\nI’m 42 years old and it has re-ignited mine.I’ve spent my career troubleshooting and being a generalist, not really interested in writing code outside of for systems and networking usage. It’s boring to type out (lots of fun to plan though!) and outdated as soon as it is written.I’ve made and continue to make things that I’ve been thinking about for a while, but the juice was never worth the squeeze. Bluetooth troubleshooting for example — 5 or 6 different programs will log different parts of the stack independently.I’ve made an app calling all of these apps, and grouping all of their calls based on mac address’ and system time of the calls to correlate and pinpoint the exact issue.Now I heard the neckbeards crack their knuckles, getting ready to bear down on their split keyboards and start telling me how the program doesn’t work because AI made it, it isn’t artistic enough for their liking, or whatever the current lie they comfort themselves with is.But it does work, and I’ve used it already to determine some of my bad devices are really bad.But there are bugs, you exclaim! Sure, but have you seen human written code? I’ve made my career in understanding these systems, programming languages, and people using the systems — troubleshooting is the fun part and I guess lucky for me is that my favorite part is the thing that will continue to exist.But what about QA? Humans are better? No. Please guys, stop lying to yourselves.Even if there was a benefit that Humans bring over AI in this arena, that lead is evaporating fast or is already gone. I think a lot of people in our industry take their knowledge and ability to gatekeep by having that knowledge as some sort of a good thing. If that was the only thing you were good at, then maybe it is good that the AI is going to do the thing they excel at and leave those folks to theirs.It can leave humans to figure out how to maybe be more human?It is funny to type that since I have been on a computer 12h a day since like 1997.but there is a reason why we let calculators crunch large sums, and manufacturing robots have multiple articulating points in their arms making incredible items at insane speeds. I guess there were probably people who like using slide rules and were really good at it, pissed because their job was taken by a device that can do it better and faster.Diddnt the slide rule users take the job from people who did not have a tool like that at first but still had to do the job?Did THEY complain about that change as well? Regardless, all of these people were left behind if all they are going to do is complain. If you only built one skill in your career, and that is writing code and nothing else, that is not the programs fault.The journey exists for those who desire to build the knowledge that they lack and use these new incredible tools.For everyone else, there is Hacker News and an overwhelmingly significant crowd that are ready to talk about the good ole days instead of seeing the opportunities in expanding your talents with software that helps you do your thing better than you have ever dreamed of.reply”},{“Hacker Newsnew | past | comments | ask | show | jobs | submitlogin”:”klinquist 10 minutes ago | parent | next [–]\nI agree with this.I recently wanted to monitor my vehicle batteries with a cheap BLE battery monitor from AliExpress (by getting the data into HomeAssistant). I could have spent days digging through BlueZ on a Raspberry Pi, or I could use AI and have a working solution an hour later.Yes, I gave up the chance to manually learn every layer of the stack. I’m fine with that. The goal was not to become a Bluetooth archaeologist. The goal was to solve the problem.AI got me there faster – and let me move on to my next fun project.reply”,”Hacker Newsnew | past | comments | ask | show | jobs | submit”:””,”login”:””,”I’m 60 years old. Claude Code killed a passion”:”klinquist 10 minutes ago | parent | next [–]\nI agree with this.I recently wanted to monitor my vehicle batteries with a cheap BLE battery monitor from AliExpress (by getting the data into HomeAssistant).I could have spent days digging through BlueZ on a Raspberry Pi, or I could use AI and have a working solution an hour later.Yes, I gave up the chance to manually learn every layer of the stack. I’m fine with that. The goal was not to become a Bluetooth archaeologist. The goal was to solve the problem. AI got me there faster – and let me move on to my next fun project.reply”},{“Hacker Newsnew | past | comments | ask | show | jobs | submitlogin”:”heraldgeezer 6 minutes ago | parent | prev [–]\nYup they are so mad that sysadmin + CC/AI is perfect just like how they where going to take over with \”devops\”reply”,”Hacker Newsnew | past | comments | ask | show | jobs | submit”:””,”login”:””,”I’m 60 years old.Claude Code killed a passion”:”heraldgeezer 6 minutes ago | parent | prev [–]\nYup they are so mad that sysadmin + CC/AI is perfect just like how they where going to take over with \”devops\”reply”},{“Hacker Newsnew | past | comments | ask | show | jobs | submitlogin”:”Guidelines | FAQ | Lists | API | Security | Legal | Apply to YC | Contact\nSearch:”,”Hacker Newsnew | past | comments | ask | show | jobs | submit”:””}]

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Andrii Bidochko is an AI entrepreneur and researcher focused on AI agents, reinforcement learning, and autonomous systems. He writes about the technologies shaping the future of machine intelligence, from frontier models and agent architectures to real-world AI applications.